February 8, 2005

  • Topic: the magic eye comes into focus

    (if you haven’t read my last post “the heart of the debate,” i recommend reading that first, and then this NYT article… )


    Spearing the Beast

    By PAUL KRUGMAN

    Published: February 8, 2005


    President Bush isn’t trying to reform Social Security. He isn’t even trying to “partially privatize” it. His plan is, in essence, to dismantle the program, replacing it with a system that may be social but doesn’t provide security. And the goal, as with his tax cuts, is to undermine the legacy of Franklin Roosevelt.









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    Why do I say that the Bush plan would dismantle Social Security? Because for Americans who entered the work force after the plan went into effect and who chose to open private accounts, guaranteed benefits – income you receive after retirement even if everything else goes wrong – would be nearly eliminated.


    Here’s how it would work. First, workers with private accounts would be subject to a “clawback”: in effect, they would have to mortgage their future benefits in order to put money into their accounts.


    Second, since private accounts would do nothing to improve Social Security’s finances – something the administration has finally admitted – there would be large benefit cuts in addition to the clawback.


    Jason Furman of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that the guaranteed benefits left to an average worker born in 1990, after the clawback and the additional cuts, would be only 8 percent of that worker’s prior earnings, compared with 35 percent today. This means that under Mr. Bush’s plan, workers with private accounts that fared poorly would find themselves destitute.


    Why expose workers to that much risk? Ideology. “Social Security is the soft underbelly of the welfare state,” declares Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth and the Cato Institute. “If you can jab your spear through that, you can undermine the whole welfare state.”


    By the welfare state, Mr. Moore means Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid – social insurance programs whose purpose, above all, is to protect Americans against the extreme economic insecurity that prevailed before the New Deal. The hard right has never forgiven F.D.R. (and later L.B.J.) for his efforts to reduce that insecurity, and now that the right is running Washington, it’s trying to turn the clock back to 1932.


    Medicaid is also in the cross hairs. And if Mr. Bush can take down Social Security, Medicare will be next.


    The attempt to “jab a spear” through Social Security complements the strategy of “starve the beast,” long advocated by right-wing intellectuals: cut taxes, then use the resulting deficits as an excuse for cuts in social spending. The spearing doesn’t seem to be going too well at the moment, but the starving was on full display in the budget released yesterday.


    To put that budget into perspective, let’s look at the causes of the federal budget deficit. In spite of the expense of the Iraq war, federal spending as a share of G.D.P. isn’t high by historical standards – in fact, it’s slightly below its average over the past 20 years. But federal revenue as a share of G.D.P. has plunged to levels not seen since the 1950′s.


    Almost all of this plunge came from a sharp decline in receipts from the personal income tax and the corporate profits tax. These are the taxes that fall primarily on people with high incomes – and in 2003 and 2004, their combined take as a share of G.D.P. was at its lowest level since 1942. On the other hand, the payroll tax, which is the main federal tax paid by middle-class and working-class Americans, remains at near-record levels.


    You might think, given these facts, that a plan to reduce the deficit would include major efforts to increase revenue, starting with a rollback of recent huge tax cuts for the wealthy. In fact, the budget contains new upper-income tax breaks.


    Any deficit reduction will come from spending cuts. Many of those cuts won’t make it through Congress, but Mr. Bush may well succeed in imposing cuts in child care assistance and food stamps for low-income workers. He may also succeed in severely squeezing Medicaid – the only one of the three great social insurance programs specifically intended for the poor and near-poor, and therefore the most politically vulnerable.


    All of this explains why it’s foolish to imagine some sort of widely acceptable compromise with Mr. Bush about Social Security. Moderates and liberals want to preserve the America F.D.R. built. Mr. Bush and the ideological movement he leads, although they may use F.D.R.’s image in ads, want to destroy it (end of article).


    As my last post noted, numbers matter, but different ideologies will use numbers for their own gain.  That’s why the fight isn’t just over the numbers of Social Security, but over the legacy of FDR.   “Moderates and liberals want to preserve the America FDR built.  Mr. Bush and the ideological movement he leads…wants to destroy it.”


    Remember the quote from the Cato institute, a libertarian think tank that is one of the leading influences on the Republican agenda:


    “Social Security is the soft underbelly of the welfare state,” declares Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth and the Cato Institute. “If you can jab your spear through that, you can undermine the whole welfare state.”


    We are a welfare state, and there are problems with our welfare state.  Some programs are inefficient, some are underfunded, some are overfunded and wasteful.  But, the reason we have a welfare state, as does Canada, England, Brazil, Sweden…is to do the best we can to give everyone, especially the poor, an opportunity for a good education, for a healthy life, for a decent standard of living.  Now…when we find problems with our social programs, and there are, we should aim to improve those programs. 


    The Republicans, supported by libertarian think tanks, think differently.  They want to do away with all social programs.  The state should not provide, things should be privatized, taken care of by the individual, an “ownership society.”  On a philosophical level, there may be some justification for their thinking.  But…on a practical level, knowing what we know about human nature, we are forced to have these social programs.  And…on a practical level, knowing what we know about who tends to support which ideology (seniors, workers unions, oppose privatizing Social Security…Wall Street and big business supports it), we see again why we are forced to have these social programs.  A government that operates for the people is better at taking care of its people than businesses whose only concern is with profits (which, often goes against the interests of people). 


    “The attempt to “jab a spear” through Social Security complements the strategy of “starve the beast,” long advocated by right-wing intellectuals: cut taxes, then use the resulting deficits as an excuse for cuts in social spending. The spearing doesn’t seem to be going too well at the moment, but the starving was on full display in the budget released yesterday.”


    Here we see how liberals and conservatives can come up with two different formulas for growing the country, the economy, and taking care of its people.  Intellectuals will debate till they’re blue about whether cutting taxes and social programs is better, or whether a progressive tax and social programs is better.  But…you don’t have to be an economist to understand what the differences are.  It all comes down to whether or not you believe in a social safety net, whether or not you believe that to help the poor, we must create certain social programs for them, to be paid for through taxation.  


    That’s why you hear a lot from Bush and co. about lowering taxes as a way to raise the economy.  People hear that, think it’s good, and support it.  However, you never hear Bush and co. arguing the second part of their argument, “cutting social programs is also going to improve the economy.”  Many libertarians might support that argument, but your average Republican only voted for tax cuts, not cutting social programs.  A strong economy is worthless if the poorest in society do not benefit from it.


    At the end of the day, Republican economics is simply not honest economics.  Libertarians are more honest, but that’s probably why most people haven’t heard of them.  “Vote for me…I’ll cut your taxes, and cut social programs, that’s what’s best for society.”  Instead, you get Republicans covering for them, “We’ll cut taxes, and save those starving social programs by privatizing them, or, we’ll starve them some more since they’re doing very poorly and don’t deserve any more funds (see No Child Left Behind).”  It’s a cruel logic, but, it’s a logic that must be revealed for what it is.   


    In another article, Mr. Bush promised to hold “federal programs to a firm test of accountability” and take “the steps necessary to achieve our deficit reduction goals.”  


    Now…synthesizing what we’ve discovered, what can we extract from Mr. Bush’s promise.  Does Mr. Bush want to see federal programs flourish, but also make sure they’re being held accountable?  Or…is it more likely that Mr. Bush wants to hold them accountable for their very existance? 


    Is the deficit (federal spending is more than federal revenue) that Mr. Bush is trying to reduce, a product of a slow economy where high taxes actually caused federal revenue to decrease?  Or, is the deficit a product of federal spending, period.  End of sentance! 


    Is Mr. Bush interested in lowering taxes in order to stimulate the economy, so that there are more federal revenues available for programs?  Or…is Mr. Bush interested in lowering taxes in order to stimulate the economy, but rather than using a strong economy to increase federal revenue and spending, to instead keep those things small too?


    In future posts…I hope to examine some federal programs, to see whether these programs should be starved to death or not. 


     

Comments (19)

  • Krugman is great, in my mind, largely because he is very clearly what I call a “post-modern economist.” That is, essentially one of those who’s thinking includes the impact of John Nash’s breakthrough mathematics work. Nash is the guy who “mathematically proved” the Democratic Socialist point, that neither pure-self-interest nor pure-commonality, were the “correct” routes. The evidence, of course, is largely on that side. It is the reason it is far less expensive to manufacture automobiles in high tax Canada and high-tax Japan than in low-tax America (thus why Ontario will build more cars than Michigan this year). Michigan can keep cutting taxes, but every time they cut taxes they (a) degrade the quality of their workforce, and (b) raise the cost of health benefits that the automakers must pay. Ontario raises taxes and imports jobs because their schools are better and there are zero health care expenses.

    What Krugman is saying here is exactly what I said (less coherently) on your last post. This isn’t about economics at all, it is a morality question regarding what kind of society we choose to accept. The left, of course, needs to make this point: We need to point out to people that when they cheer for Scrooge’s redemption at the end of “A Christmas Carol,” that they themselves are choosing to elect the “old Scrooge” every time they vote Republican.

  • And just this addendum on federal programs. Are they really somehow more wasteful than corporate spending? I really can’t see how, except when they are swindled by corporate execs/campaign contributors (such as Halliburton). Medicare is far MORE efficient than any private medical insurance, if you measure percentage of dollars that go to benefits and not administration. No one on the government payroll gets the obscene paycheck totals that are the staple of American capitalism. I’ve never seen a government agency implode like Enron or WorldCom or Adelphia or even USAir, United Airlines, or Montgomery Ward. The WORST thing that happens with government social programs is that some medium-income university researcher gets to hire three more grad students or a mom on welfare gets away with an extra 10 grand. How does that compare with what was tossed out by America’s capitalists when they destroyed the S+L industry in the 1980s? Even public education, that whipping boy for “throwing money does nothing” is actually stunningly efficient: For an average of about $6,000 a year our kids are cared for (even if not educated) for over 1,200 hours a year (not counting anything extracurricular), or, in other words $5.00 per hour. How many private day care centers charge that little?

    Of course that’s not the way government programs need to be measured, they need to be judged by the impact on society. I can’t remember America before Johnson’s War on Poverty, but I can read statistics. What percentage of Tennessee households had refrigerators in 1965 v 1985? What was life expectancy for a 60-year-old in 1965 v 1985? What was the infant mortality rate 1965 v 1985? Federal programs changed all those statistics dramatically.

    After all, though we could barely figure it out, the Soviet Union didn’t have a huge army to threaten us, they had a huge army because it gave tons of 18-30-year-olds jobs, and that’s what they needed.

  • it will be brutal to come…

  • “Libertarians are more honest, but that’s probably why most people haven’t heard of them.  “Vote for me…I’ll cut your taxes, and cut social programs, that’s what’s best for society.”  Instead, you get Republicans covering for them, “We’ll cut taxes, and save those starving social programs by privatizing them, or, we’ll starve them some more since they’re doing very poorly and don’t deserve any more funds (see No Child Left Behind).”  It’s a cruel logic, but, it’s a logic that must be revealed for what it is.”

    PRetty interesting quote, though if the neocons happen to topple the welfare state after holding it up the last 4 years, I will be very happy, though unhappy with the dishonesty.

    “The evidence, of course, is largely on that side. It is the reason it is far less expensive to manufacture automobiles in high tax Canada and high-tax Japan than in low-tax America (thus why Ontario will build more cars than Michigan this year). “

    But how about the difference in worker productivity?  How about particular taxes on those corporations?

  • I’ve never seen any study to indicate Canadian workers are more productive than Americans. In fact, Ford is shutting it’s remarkably efficient Atlanta (GA) assembly plant (ranked third in the nation by the WSJ) to move that product assembly to Ontario. Georgia has, by far, lower corporate income taxes, lower individual income taxes, lower property taxes than Michigan or Ontario. But what Georgia doesn’t have is a decently educated work force, or a consistently healthy one, and because of the built-in efficiency of Government-funded services in Canada, costs are stunningly (as much as $700 per vehicle) lower. What libertarians and Republicans never admit is that if it costs $700 less to build a Lincoln Navigator in Ontario than in Georgia, and the Canadian government takes even 30% of that $700 extra profit in taxes, you are still WAY ahead.

    That is why John Nash was right.

  • Dan,

    you’ve grown up in a world of American corporate media, and so, sure, you’ve been inundated with their false histories and re-definitions of words. What are progressives for? They are FOR improving, not dismantling Social Security. Republicans are anti-Social Security. Progressives are FOR reproductive freedom and separation of church and state. Republicans are anti-both those things. Progressives are FOR universal health insurance. Republicans are “anti-life” in that they argue it is fine to let poor kids die. Progressives are FOR universal access to appropriate education (improving k-12 funding, making college universally more affordable). Republicans are anti-public education.

    You see? If Tom Brokaw didn’t work for GE and Peter Jennings for Michael Eisner all these phrases might be inverted.

    I do not think we should ever say “we’re not sure we’re right.” We ARE right. We have the moral position and the positions backed by economic facts. It is not the left that has to lie about Canadian and German health care or make up stories about “welfare queens driving Cadillacs.” Do we need to be more forceful? Absolutely. More in-your-face? Indeed. Do we need to call these guys on every lie they utter, from Bush on ‘Blacks and Social Security’ to Frist on ‘the costs of Socialized Medicine” to Hastert on his ‘definitions of patriotism’? Without a doubt.

    Do we even have to say: craigramblings doesn’t want a welfare state? OK, pay me back for the education he’s received at taxpayer expense. Pay me back for the cost of the air traffic control system on any date he’s flown. Pay me back for the cost of the police who patrol his town at night. Call them on their basic hypocrisy every time they express it. You won’t change their thinkings, but you’ll help innoculate others. You see craigrambling, and the right in general, simply think any service “they don’t need” is welfare, and any that they do “is essential.” and that’s why I’ll keep saying, “it’s not an economic theory, it’s greed.”

  • For the same among you who may be wondering why manufacturing would be moving to a higher tax area, and have not yet learned to distrust every fact and figure thenarrator utters, this website should clear things up for you.confused as to why US manufacturing.
     
    The truth of the matter is that Ontario has on average a 3% lower tax rate (including Canadian federal taxes) than the average US state (again, including US federal tax rates), and 6% lower tax rate than the average Great Lakes States, and 5% lower than Michigan specifically.  Figures for Georgia, unfortunately, are unavailable, but does anyone besides thenarrator really doubt that they will be higher than Ontario’s?
     
    I’ll come back and comment more later if I have time, but for now, this most basic fact checking will have to suffice.  Again, all are encouraged to personally look up every unsourced fact and figure thenarrator relates.  He compulsively lies about even the most basic facts.  It’s one of the reasons I particularly enjoy reading his rants against “Bush’s lies.”

  • Yea, I don’t know why xanga keeps removing the spaces in my comments. Take two:
    For the same among you who may be wondering why manufacturing would be moving to a higher tax area, and have not yet learned to distrust every fact and figure thenarrator utters, http://www.2ontario.com/welcome/bctx_600.aspshould clear things up for you.

    The truth of the matter is that Ontario has on average a 3% lower tax rate (including Canadian federal taxes) than the average US state (again, including US federal tax rates), and 6% lower tax rate than the average Great Lakes States, and 5% lower than Michigan specifically. Figures for Georgia, unfortunately, are unavailable, but does anyone besides thenarrator really doubt that they will be higher than Ontario’s?

    I’ll come back and comment more later if I have time, but for now, this most basic fact checking will have to suffice. Again, all are encouraged to personally look up every unsourced fact and figure thenarrator relates. He compulsively lies about even the most basic facts. It’s one of the reasons I particularly enjoy reading his rants against “Bush’s lies.”

  • thatliberalmedia’s comments are obvious lies, and he’s using a bizarre puff-piece from Ontario’s government to try to make a ridiculous point. He’s fond of calling me a liar, but ok, accept what he says. This would mean that Canada has managed an extraordinary thing: a complete social safety net (guaranteed health care, housing, education)AND lower tax rates. Which would mean, again, according to thatliberalmedia, that we must socialize medicine and transportation immediately in order to lower taxes, while quadrupling per student support for college students. It would mean that everything thatliberalmedia has previously said is completely wrong because, obviously, if the Canadian government can do all it does with LOWER tax rates than the US, their economy is infinitely superior (by capitalist measures) to ours.

    But lets look at the facts: Michigan corporate income tax rate is a flat 6%. But last year, General Motors actually paid less than 2% on their Michigan income due to tax deductions. GMs federal corporate tax liability, according to their own financials, totalled less than 9% of their US income. So, they paid 11% in corporate taxes. Comparing tax systems is never easy, because even between states the systems vary so dramatically. But suffice it so that thatliberalmedia would be hard-pressed to find anyone with an economics education who thinks Canadian taxes are lower than American taxes. Next he’ll be telling us Daimler managed to buy Chrysler because German corporate taxes are so low. Jeez, athletes won’t even sign with Canadian sports teams for just these tax reasons.

    Remember, as I said, it is not the left that has to lie to make its point.

  • Oh, I’m sorry, I was off. In 2003 General Motors paid 123 million dollars in US federal taxes on a profit of 2.8 billion. or 4%. If we restrict them to “Profits from US Operations” they paid $123 million on profits of 1.74 billion, or 7% assuming no foreign profits were brought back into the United States. They did pay 414 million dollars in income taxes to the 50 states (including just over $60 million to Michigan), which brings their total income tax liability to around 30%.

    Notice, however, their foreign tax liability, it is more than triple their total US tax liability though only 40% of their profit is from outside the US. The largest share of that foreign tax liability? to Canada, of course.

  • And a final note, because the way thatliberalmedia lies is so indicative of right-wing economic lies in general, it makes a point better than I could have otherwise. If you look at those GM financial statements you’ll see that they owed $1.71 billion in 2003 in foreign income taxes on what they claimed were $1.1 billion in foreign profits (a claim made for US auditors). This is because GM’s profit wasn’t really $2.8 billion, nor was their foreign profit really $1.1 billion. It was much, much larger, but US rules allow massive exclusions (a way to screw both the government and their shareholders) that, of course, Canada, Germany, the UK, Japan, etc, do not. Their profits for Canadian taxes are figured far differently than their profits for US taxes Which brings us back to the trouble with comparing tax rates…

  • “Do we even have to say: craigramblings doesn’t want a welfare state? OK, pay me back for the education he’s received at taxpayer expense. Pay me back for the cost of the air traffic control system on any date he’s flown. Pay me back for the cost of the police who patrol his town at night. Call them on their basic hypocrisy every time they express it. You won’t change their thinkings, but you’ll help innoculate others. You see craigrambling, and the right in general, simply think any service “they don’t need” is welfare, and any that they do “is essential.” and that’s why I’ll keep saying, “it’s not an economic theory, it’s greed.”"

    I would think your method of arguing hurts any intelligent points you bring up.  If I am a citizen, as you are a citizen, I am equally entitled to what every other citizen gets meeting identical stipulations.  Because I vote one way at the voters box, I should get nothing and you vote the other way, you should get everything?  That is totally ridiculous and it reveals how arrogant you truly are.

    I have been poor, very poor.  I have slept on a couch without heat.  It really is not that bad, even though I do not prefer it.  However, you keep questioning my motives as if I partake in a massive right wing conspiracy.  That is simply ridiculous.

  • “…but ok, accept what he says. This would mean that Canada has managed an extraordinary thing: a complete social safety net (guaranteed health care, housing, education)AND lower tax rates. “

    This is another gross misunderstanding.  I have read up on tax sheltering in Canada and theliberalmedia might be citing statistics concerncing what in the end those corporations actually pay in taxes, not their workforce.

    So, in the interest of keeping it simple, how about the average canadian person?  They make about 10,000 dolalrs less on average than we do (and if my statistic is Canadian money, it is even low) and their income is THEN taxed to provide for all of those things.  Would you not rather make ten thousand dollars more, have less taxes, and provide for yourself?  It is a hell of a lot more efficient.

    In all probabilty, American corporations take advantage of special tax conditions given to them from Canada.  here’s a taste of it: http://www.escapeartist.com/efam27/Canadian_Sunrise.html

  • My point craig, is that you choose to define “welfare state” your way, using it a a pejorative. You want the things you want (that’s not surprising), but again, it is absolutely a morals decision. I continue to argue that human society, as it evolves, moves inevitably toward socialism, because we learn that we do things better together. But you’re all about words, and maybe so am I. You say, “welfare is bad,” I say “feeding children is good.” You say, “government bureaucrats waste money.” I say, “government bureaucrats do far more with far less than their corporate counterparts.”

    See, as Dan pointed out, you surely CAN choose to stand by a pool and watch someone drown. But generally, humans have decided that’s not the best choice. We’ve even decided to be logical about it: for example, if I’m a much better swimmer than you, and we’re both there, then I should jump in. You’ll think that’s an unfair imposition on me, but I’ll think we’re all on the same team if you just hand me a towel as I get out. Maybe that reflects a religious background, or the way I was raised, or my experiences overall, but when framed in this simple way, it’s the way most humans would choose to live.

    So it stuns me when I hear so many Americans (and this, honestly, is mostly a US line of thinking), saying, “screw the drowning person. he shouldn’t of gotten in the pool if he couldn’t swim. she’s obviously lazy, if she wasn’t she would’ve learned to swim. he’s simply not smart enough to learn to swim, so what are you going to do?” See, what’s disturbing there is the hypocrisy: If you simply say, “I’m not willing to risk anything for that person.” or “My clothes would be ruined if I jumped in the pool and these clothes mean more to me than that person’s life.” I wouldn’t like your line of reasoning, and wouldn’t want you around me in social situations, but I’d respect the honesty. What I can’t respect is the attempt to absolve the guilt by blaming the victim.

    Also, keep claiming what you will: GM in 2003 paid as much in Canadian income taxes as they did in US income taxes. They paid more in UK income taxes than they paid in US income taxes (and that division is a disaster). They paid far more in Japanese income taxes than they did in US income taxes. So, if you really think they’re in those countries for the low tax rates, you must know something that GM doesn’t.

  • “You want the things you want (that’s not surprising), but again, it is absolutely a morals decision.”

    I am not going to dignify your posts with a respectable response if you continue to question my motives.  I have nothing more to say to you until you take this back.

  • I’m somewhat stunned by how defensive you are craig. There are all sorts of moral codes out there in the world. That yours and mine may not match up doesn’t mean we can’t debate (in Italy the Pope thinks abortion is absolutely immoral but works consistently with an Italian government that is unquestionably pro-choice). Stick up for what you believe, if you believe it. I surely can’t be the first writer you’ve ever seen who calls corporate capitalism immoral. Far more than half the world firmly believes that. Most religions flat out oppose it, most predominantly, Catholicism and Islam.

    To be a libertarian you must be an absolute believer in individualism, and an “anti-communalist.” But I’ll say it again, that’s a decision based in your view of morality. Your morality drives your motives. Your motives drive your political thought. The same is absolutely true of me.

    Capitalism and libertarianism are inherently amoral philosophies, that’s why their adherents sneer at Marxists for being “utopians.” This is true. I’m not going to “take it back.”

  • I maintain what I said and I would think being “defensive” implies a mistruth.  I would be defensive if I thought you somehow debunked my arguments, which you have not.  However, if every time you speak to me you say, “you are wrong because you are a f*cking moron,” I would have better things to do than discuss issues with someone being disrespectful.  So, I reiterate what I first said.  You can change your tone and we can have an intellgient discussion or you can pretennd all you want that you are arguing properly, but you are not.

    Questioning the motives of the arguer when he has already clearly stated that what you said is not so is just a cop out and I cannot argue back against such an illogical premise to an argument.

  • Explain to me the morality of market capitalism…

    From everything I know those who created America’s market economy post-civil war even spoke of it as “Social Darwinism.” Darwinism is inherently amoral. Life in the wild isn’t Disney where good guys win, its a jungle where those most able to eat and reproduce survive. So you pay as little as you can and charge as much as you can. Then you pay for the protection you need. Perhaps you have a different explanation for libertarian economics or corporate capitalism, but that’s the only one I know.

  • Do you have problems reading english?

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